<div dir="ltr">Well, I'm bored, and I hope I'm not getting in the way of anyone, but I was like hell might as well try to make a new Xcode project, although I am using 10.8 with the latest xcode, so I'd have to manually remove that, but there is one serious concern, and that's that header files are being called from 1 directory up from where they are, for example:<div>
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<p class="">"share/compat.h" which Xcode needs to be listed as "include/share/compat.h" and I really don't want to be editing these paths, because god only knows what it'll break, any suggestions?</p>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:46 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:flac-dev-request@xiph.org" target="_blank">flac-dev-request@xiph.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:45:31 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [flac-dev] flac-dev Digest, Vol 101, Issue 27<br><div dir="ltr">I'd love to fix the .Xcodeproj (which is what they're called now) but I don't have a clue how to, if I were to figure it out would you guys accept it, or is it not worth my time?<div>
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btw, someone on Windows should get the visual studio files working, it always complains about not finding nasm.exe.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:flac-dev-request@xiph.org" target="_blank">flac-dev-request@xiph.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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4. Re: What is in directory flac.pbproj? (Erik de Castro Lopo)<br>
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Erik de Castro Lopo <<a href="mailto:mle%2Bla@mega-nerd.com" target="_blank">mle+la@mega-nerd.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:flac-dev@xiph.org" target="_blank">flac-dev@xiph.org</a><br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:00:38 +1000<br>Subject: Re: [flac-dev] [PATCH] Remaining Debian delta<br>Ulrich Klauer wrote:<br>
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> here are two patches from the Debian flac package that haven't found<br>
> their way into 1.3.0 yet. The first one is important because it fixes<br>
> a user-visible bug (albeit only affecting<br>
> --apply-replaygain-which-is-not-lossless).<br>
><br>
> See the commit messages for the source of the patches, I only did the<br>
> rebasing (which was trivial).<br>
<br>
Thanks Ulrich. Applied.<br>
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:19:37 +1000<br>Subject: [flac-dev] What is in directory flac.pbproj?<br>Hi all,<br>
<br>
There is a bunch of seemingly windows related stuff in the top level<br>
directory flac.pbproj which has not been touched since 2009.<br>
<br>
If it hasn't been touched, its almost certainly broken and redundant.<br>
Can I simply delete it?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Erik<br>
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Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:35:17 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [flac-dev] What is in directory flac.pbproj?<br>Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
There is a bunch of seemingly windows related stuff in the top level<br>
directory flac.pbproj which has not been touched since 2009.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Apparently, it is a Project Builder project, from NeXTSTEP/MacOS X. Wikipedia says it "was" an IDE and "superseded by Xcode, as of Mac OS X 10.3 Panther".<br>
<br>
Ulrich<br>
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Cc: <br>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 01:20:48 +1000<br>Subject: Re: [flac-dev] What is in directory flac.pbproj?<br>Ulrich Klauer wrote:<br>
<br>
> Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:<br>
><br>
> > There is a bunch of seemingly windows related stuff in the top level<br>
> > directory flac.pbproj which has not been touched since 2009.<br>
><br>
> Apparently, it is a Project Builder project, from NeXTSTEP/MacOS X.<br>
> Wikipedia says it "was" an IDE and "superseded by Xcode, as of Mac OS<br>
> X 10.3 Panther".<br>
<br>
I should junk it then. Whatever is there now doesn't work. If someone<br>
wants to resurrect it they can always pull it out of git.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Erik<br>
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Subject: Re: [flac-dev] What is in directory flac.pbproj?<br>On 13-04-30 8:20 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:<br>
<br>
> I should junk it then. Whatever is there now doesn't work. If someone<br>
> wants to resurrect it they can always pull it out of git.<br>
<br>
Yes, that's fine. XCode 4.6.2 binds the extension, but can't open the<br>
project files, saying they're too old, so these aren't useful to current<br>
developers.<br>
<br>
-r<br>
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Subject: Re: [flac-dev] flac-dev Digest, Vol 101, Issue 27<br>On 30-04-13 22:45, Marcus Johnson wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
btw, someone on Windows should get the visual studio files working, it always complains about not finding nasm.exe.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
These files work fine, but nasm is indeed necessary. Read the README for more information<br>
<br>
<br>
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Cc: <a href="mailto:flac-dev@xiph.org">flac-dev@xiph.org</a><br>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:15:19 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [flac-dev] What is in directory flac.pbproj?<br>On Apr 30, 2013, at 13:45, Marcus Johnson wrote:<br>
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I'd love to fix the .Xcodeproj (which is what they're called now) but I don't have a clue how to, if I were to figure it out would you guys accept it, or is it not worth my time?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Thanks for the offer, but I don't think it's worth the time. Here is my reasoning:<br>
<br>
1) Historically, flac has been built from the command line on OSX, just like every other Unix operating system. In that respect, the .pbproj and .xcodeproj files are not really necessary. In fact, that's probably why they became outdated and broken, since nobody really needed them. I have been working with flac for a long time, and I've never seen those files work. When I built the last flac release for OSX distribution, I did not use them, preferring to use make.<br>
<br>
2) If anyone is going to fix the .pbproj or .xcodeproj files, I highly recommend that it be done with Xcode itself. Attempting to manually edit these files is pointless. You need to verify them with Xcode anyway, so you might as well use Xcode to fix them. Frankly, recreating them makes more sense than fixing the existing files, although you might look in the existing files to make sure you don't leave anything out.<br>
<br>
3) In my opinion, it is better to create the project files with the oldest version of Xcode that is up to the task and supported. The reason is that newer versions of Xcode can open old project files, converting them if necessary. Unfortunately, the reverse is not true, so using Xcode 4 to fix these files would needlessly exclude older versions. The only reason to orphan developers this way is when the sources make use of new OSX features that are not available on older releases, but flac doesn't depend on any OS features that are exclusive to OSX, and certainly not on any OSX features that are only in newer releases.<br>
<br>
4) That said, Project Builder (.pbproj) is simply too old to be of use to anyone, so far as I know. Apple possibly still supports OSX 10.4 Tiger, but anything older than that is in the land of "fend for yourself" (where command line make is going to work fine anyway). I believe it is true that Project Builder was last seen on OSX 10.3 Panther, so I don't have a problem with dropping it. I do maintain several Macs running various different OSX releases, and I regularly build things under Tiger to ensure that the largest number of people can run the binary, but even as old as these machines are it's still Xcode, not Project Builder.<br>
<br>
I'd like to take a stab at creating a set of .xcodeproj files that work with Xcode 2.5 and newer, but maybe someone will beat me to it.<br>
<br>
I fully support Erik's request to simply delete the .pbproj directory and its contents.<br>
<br>
Brian Willoughby<br>
Sound Consulting<br>
<br>
p.s. Unfortunately, I do not know who originally created those .pbproj files, why they did it, or whether they ever worked. You might even find archived list messages where I asked about them.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Subject: [flac-dev] README (was flac-dev Digest, Vol 101, Issue 27)<br>Martijn van Beurden wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
These files work fine, but nasm is indeed necessary. Read the README for<br>
more information<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Oh, speaking of README ... Here is a tiny patch to align it with the renaming of <a href="http://configure.in" target="_blank">configure.in</a>.<br>
<br>
I also noticed two other things:<br>
- It says "To build FLAC with support for Ogg FLAC you must have built and installed libogg according to the specific instructions below", but there are no such instructions in the file.<br>
- The pbproj file is mentioned at the very end: "The Project Builder project has been deprecated but we are working on replacing it with an Xcode equivalent."<br>
<br>
Ulrich<br>
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Subject: Re: [flac-dev] Pre-release 1.3.0pre4 (hopefully the last)<br>On 28-04-13 13:23, LRN wrote:<br>
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On 28.04.2013 13:38, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:<br>
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I have tagged 1.3.0pre4 in git and provided a tarball here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/flac/beta/flac-1.3.0pre4.tar.xz" target="_blank">http://downloads.xiph.org/<u></u>releases/flac/beta/flac-1.3.<u></u>0pre4.tar.xz</a><br>
<br>
I have built and tested the git tree on:<br>
<br>
linux-x86_64 openbsd5-i386 freebsd5-i386<br>
</blockquote>
i686-w64-mingw32 - builds correctly, passes all tests (NT 6.1.7601).<br>
</blockquote>
Add to that:<br>
- linux-x86_64 (passed usual tests, when configured with no options, --enable-sse)<br>
- minGW (not w64) on Windows 7 32-bit<br>
- Visual Studio 2012 on Windows 7 32-bit<br>
- armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf (raspbian)<br>
<br>
Furthermore I've ran the tests I used for the lossless comparison which is on the FLAC website. The results are attached. I'm not sure what happened, but it seems something happened to my system (I did no software update or something of that sort), the results are not fully reproducible when considering decoding. I'll look into this. However, these results still show that there hasn't been a (severe) regression in performance on linux.<br>
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