[annodex-dev] Timed URI seeking without mod_annodex
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Mon Feb 21 18:20:07 EST 2005
You might not have to store the entire seektable in the cmml... the cmml
could just reference a seektable file if it exists... ie with a meta-tag or
something, ie seektable="http://www.whatever.com/yourmedia.seektable"
It still leaves the problem of have three files to move around... but when
you think about it... even my crappy little website that has like 4 pages,
has over 30 files. I mean most sites have html, css, js, jpg all seperate,
and it doesn't seem to be a problem. And we still have all the thumb files
to drag around with the annodex file... so it's already not
I also really like the idea of "playing the cmml" because to me... that's
the more html-like way... annodex is the equivalent or packaging up all the
html, js, css and images in one single bigass file. And it also allows what
i think will be a great use of cmml and that is to annotate media you either
don't own or don't want to host. ie... some video on your site... i can
write a cmml file and put it on my site... and the player will get the cmml
from me and the media from you. Which the server side solution can only
support by double handling the media.
It also lets multiple people and places annotate the same single remote
media file. ie some video somewhere... 10 different people can do their own
annotation of the same single copy of the media. Not only does this allow
more freedom... think about it from a search engine perspective... with the
current solution you get one persons annotations of the media... if you
seperate the two... you can have dozens of people annotating the same file,
with their own opinions/persectives/commentary.
That's the sort of thing that will get people in at "entry-level"... since
it's trivial for me to host a cmml file... and not have to worry about the
bandwidth of serving the video, or copyright issues... just like html... i
can write up my spiel and link it to the original source, rather than
everyone duplicating the source media everywhere they want to annotate it.
And when you think about... every player which uses the cmml... has to get
it seperately in order to display the toc... and then completely ignores the
cmml that is in the stream, and uses the cmml it got to time transition.
There's only one situation where this is not the case... and that is for
lvie created content. Since the cmml is essentially redundant in the annodex
stream for most cases... you might as well not even send it in those cases.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Pang" <Andre.Pang at csiro.au>
To: "Conrad Parker" <conrad at metadecks.org>
Cc: "Annodex Development" <annodex-dev at lists.annodex.net>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [annodex-dev] Timed URI seeking without mod_annodex
The major problem I see with this solution is the same as the
client-side seektable scheme which I've been discussing: where do we
store the seektable? Do we expect the raw media file to store it, can
we store it in the CMML (yecch), or do we put it in another separate
file again, meaning that we now have the rather inelegant solution of
three files which need to be moved around to have these features? I
was hoping to try to come up with a better solution than any of these
three when I initiated the discussion.
: André Pang (x4180)
: Software Engineer, Networked Media : CeNTIE
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